Wednesday, August 29, 2007

Jason Bermas has the NORAD TAPES

=== 911 conspiracy related ORIGINAL SOURCE MATERIAL ===

The tapes obtained by Loose Change consist of 18 audio files of 399 minutes or more per file, allegedly detailing all NORAD communications during 9/11.

DOWNLOAD:

via Rapishare (use winzip11 to unpack!)

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LET ME KNOW if this download works. I can get the other 14 there, too.


COMPLETE DOWNLOAD:

Run OPERA 9.x browser and click This:
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OR THIS (with comments and you can see how many people are seeding):

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3791805




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About 120 hours worth of recordings of various NORAD radio channels from 9/11/2001. Released by NORAD to Jason Berman (of the Loose Change production staff), and then released by Bermas onto the Internet.

Did Flight 11 ever hit the World Trade Center? According to these tapes, no, no it didn't.

Did Flight 93 explode in mid-air northeast of Camp David? According to these tapes, yes, yes it did.

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Partial (shoddy) transcript:

I was listening to them online!! 22:19 GMT 20aug2007 on
http://metro.phaylon.com:8105/ *carries crap radio now*
(use winamp an press CTRL-L or VLC (Open network stream)...
Stream Status:  Stream is up at 16 kbps with 7 of 25 listeners (7 unique)
Listener Peak: 9 Average Listen Time: 2h 58m 46s
Stream Title: Revere Radio Network ~ Freedom of Speech 8K stream


At 8:37:52 Boston ATC broke standard protocols and directly contacted NEADS in Rome, New York about the hijacking of Flight 11. This was the moment that the now infamous exchange between Boston ATC and NEADS occurred...

Quote:
Boston ATC: Hi. Boston Center TMU [Traffic Management Unit], we have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed towards New York, and we need you guys to, we need someone to scramble some F-16s or something up there, help us out.
NEADS: Is this real-world or exercise?
Boston ATC: No, this is not an exercise, not a test.



The sound files are good quality and they just said:
a 737 (!) just hit the world trade center, this is real world"

22:22gmt You think we should stop the exercise? LAUGHTER LAUGHTER.

Whiskey 105, Delta up there 5 3? I've got they guy calling McGuire. Is he on the way home? 401 kc10 possible Hijack No Squawk .. unconfirmed second hit. Keep calling them! team 23 New York Center. Two KC10s a lot of fuel. team 23 and team 24 airborne. Tanker is on its way back.

Second unconfirmed is United Airlines 175

Battle station is only Langley.

FAA wants to hold them in Whiskey 105.

On battle station! 2526 on battle station, Langley

I want those fighters closer in.

22:47 american 11 the original guy is still airborne
We do have a tail number... N334AA
He is kinda smart, he knew exactly what he wanted us to do.

Unbelievable. JESUS Christ!

changing the symboligy, just going to be whatever.
25 is headed into Whiskey 106

Boston center team. We did the one home in 105, they were on a training mission.
Everybody in training send them home.

We want (Baltimore) center to maintain primary control.
I have an aircraft 6 miles east from the whitehouse!

Radar ONLY! Bravo 032 no alitude, I got em.
I don't care how many windows you break.
Syracuse stand by.

Sqawking 777! Traffic at 22000.

Delta 89 south south east of Toledo
Special track on that guy.

I talk to them, we do that homeland defence thing.
only 140 knots only 100 knots

This aircraft is coming from Canada.
No callsign, heading towards Washington.
Pentagon got whacked? unconfirmed? Unconfirmed information forget it!
I need callsigns from the Toledo Selfridge and Alpino guys,
Son of a bitch.
That looks like a small aircraft.. I mean small!
Trying to get an E3 over Chicago, I have no radar.
Fu** he's got it! Give me callsign, give me whole 9 yards.
United 93, got a bomb? Going from where to where.
Bomb on board, United 93, out of Boston?
Intercept! and divert that aircraft away from there.

AIRCRAFT OVER THE WHITEHOUSE


What is it? .. FIFTH AEROPLANE!! .. Cleveland!
negative clearance to fire. ID TYPE TAIL.

93 is down north east of Camp David confirmed.
He exploded, he exploded.


If we have to take anyone out, I recommend we use AIM-9's in the face

"I've got Cheyenne Mountain on the line...terminating all exercise inputs."


CONTROLLER 1: "These guys are smart"
CONTROLLER 2: "Yea, they knew exactly what they wanted to do"

At 52:56 of tape DRM1 DAT2 Channel 2 MCC Op.wav

This is ~100 minutes after the attacks started at 8:46.

BTW- Much on most of the tapes is just dead air. You won't need to listen to anything nearing 120 hours. Even so, there's still a lot to listen to.

You do have to wonder about the exercise that was supposed to be going on that day. I'd be interested to know if they had actual PLANES that were involved in the exercise about Russian movements, or if it was just mock radar tracks in the NORAD tracking area. Not to mention, who's to say, even if they had planes, that the planes would have been armed? In an exercise, as far as I know, that's HIGHLY unlikely.

exercises are pretty common - especially for the NORAD guys - i mean prior to 9/11 it was a monotonus job - be they with real planes or just mock tracks -
It seems through listening so far that there was a mixture between mock tracks (possibly the hostiles) and real fighters -And I agree 100% planes within the exercise were Almost 100% not armed - as they had to be landed to arm with 2X2 and ammo in one case i have heard on the NORAD tapes

MCC Op - Mission Crew Commander
MCC TK - Mission Crew Commander
TT Op (x2) - (Tactical Trackers?)
TT TK (x3) - (Tactical Trackers?)
ACWO TK
AST Op
AST TK
SD2 Op
SD2 TK
AICC
Emerg-AICC
ID Op - ID Techs
ID TK - ID Techs
ID2 Op - ID Techs
ID2 TK - ID Techs


ACWO - AirCraft Weapons Officer?
SD - Senior Director
AICC - Air Intercept Control Console?

Can anybody tell me what the terms "Huntress" and "Giant Killer" refer to?


Huntress was NEADS. Giant Killer was the Navy ATC facility controlling the area over the Atlantic. That entire area up and down the coast has numerous Warning Areas and MOA's all owned by the Navy.



The crux of my question is who was talking to the fighters when they were out over the Atlantic, and who directed them there. It is clear that at that moment, a Navy controller was talking to them, but NEADS wasn't. The "I'm gonna choke that guy" conversation with Huckabone demonstrates that:

Quote:
Along with Master Sergeant Steve Citino, another controller who is sitting next to him, Huckabone orders a Navy air traffic controller who is handling the fighters to get them turned around. The Navy controller appears not to understand the urgency of the situation. He responds, “You’ve got [the fighters] moving east in airspace. Now you want ‘em to go to Baltimore?” Huckabone replies yes, and says, “Have him contact us on auxiliary frequency 2-3-4 decimal 6. Instead of taking handoffs to us and us handing ‘em back, just tell Center they’ve got to go to Baltimore.” The Navy controller says, “Stand by. We’ll get back to you.” Citino retorts, “What do you mean, ‘We’ll get back to you’? Just do it!” Huckabone jokes, “I’m gonna choke that guy!”
The Navy controller clearly is talking to the fighters, but he believes it is NEADS who have sent them out east. NEADS is not talking to the fighters, that's why Huckabone gives them the freq to contact them.



Originally Posted by NTSB Report
8:51:42 - United one seventy five recycle your transponder and squawk code of one four seven zero.
8:51:53 - United one seventy five New York.
8:52:09 - United one seventy five do you read New York?
8:52:20 - United, United one seventy five do you read New York?
8:53:52 - United one seventy five New York.
8:54:33 - United one seventy five do you read New York?

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc03.pdf


t 8:13:47, Boston Center instructed the pilots of Flight 11 to ascend to a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet, they never responded to this request. Remember at this point it was just another ordinary day, in fact this was the first indication that something hand happened on board that flight. Boston center then tried repeatedly to contact the aircraft (I've highlighted the voice of Mohammed Atta in bold)…

Originally Posted by NTSB Report
8:13:47 - American eleven climb maintain flight level three five zero.
8:13:57 - American eleven climb maintain flight level three five zero.
8:14:08 - American eleven Boston.
8:14:23 - American eleven Boston.
8:14:33 - American one one uh the American on the frequency how do you hear me?
8:15:15 - American eleven Boston.
8:15:22 - American eleven if you hear Boston center ident.
8:15:49 - American eleven if you hear Boston center ident please or acknowledge.
8:16:32 - American eleven if you hear Boston center ah re-contact Boston Center on one two seven point eight two, that's American eleven on two seven eight two.
8:17:05 - American eleven, American one one Boston.
8:17:56 - American eleven if you hear Boston center ident please.
8:18:56 - American eleven Boston.
8:20:08 - American eleven American one one how do you hear the center?
8:22:27 - American eleven Boston.
8:24:33 - is that American eleven trying to call?.
8:24:36 - **.
8:24:38 - we have some planes. just stay quiet and you'll be okay we are returning to the airport.
8:24:46 - and uh who's trying to call me here?
8:24:53 - American eleven are you trying to call?
8:24:56 - nobody move. everything will be okay. if you try to make and moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. just stay quiet.
8:33:59 - nobody move please we are going back to the airport don't try to make any stupid moves.

FAIRY TALE: *atta is an inject, too!*

After Mohammed Atta accidentally broadcast the message he thought was being aimed at the passengers between 8:24 and 8:25 the Boston center controller realized this was indeed a hijacking.







Airforce Traffic Control = ATC
F16 Figther = F16

ATC = What? A second Hi-jack?
F16 = Thats affermative however not base confirmed
ATC = Now....where did you get that info??
F16 = *Says something I cant hear*
ATC = Is it another airline?
F16 = No sir. Also American Airlines
ATC = Thats does it. I am not flying with them again.



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From: Loose Change Forum->General Information->The Lounge

UPDATE: dylan avery Aug 30 2007, 02:44 PM = 19:44 GMT
I'm not sure to be honest. The torrent will be available tonight
...and you can start dling the actual tapes.

UPDATE: dylan avery Aug 30 2007, 02:00 PM = 19:00 GMT
Bonus...if you want to hear the first two hours...tune into Revere Radio Network tonight at 5 PM EST. http://revereradio.net/SITE/Thursday.html

UPDATE 30 August 2007 18:25 GMT (2:25pm New York Time)

18 WAV files, ~180MB each. They're already compressed.

I tried making mp3s out of them and the filesize was exactly the same.
dylan avery Aug 30 2007, 12:50 PM = 17:50 GMT
My seeders are getting set up. The torrent is tracked and ready to go. Give us a few hours and it'll be public.




After Jason talked about 911 conspiracytheories on BBC world-service "haveyoursay" on worldwide (!) shortwave radio (download mp3) , no he now made this announcement:


Bermas: "Today we actually got the NORAD tapes" that no-one has listened to, other than the 911 commission!

According to Bermas, Loose Change has obtained over 100 hours of tapes -- significantly more than the 30 hours that Bronner said he used in writing his article. The tapes obtained by Loose Change consist of 21 audio files of 399 minutes or more per file, allegedly detailing all NORAD communications during 9/11. Bermas said that Loose Change has downloaded the files to another server and will torrent them starting tomorrow--stay tuned to 911blogger and the forum at http://loosechange911.com

TRANSCRIPT of the interview:

Jason: "... Michael Bronner who did that Vanity fair piece ... (Barrett: do you have a national security clearance?) We just kept pushing, they are supposedly public domain, it took us about two months, and finally we received 60 (?) -- 3.76 gigabytes of information -- I think its basically from everybody's phone. I only ave gone through the first hour and a half of one of them. There is literally a 140 hours of material. So what we are doing right now: uploading it to a server, putting it into a torrent and people should watch out for blogger (911blogger.com?) and other places, really serious researchers who can go through that stuff, because I've got through it already and they are already talking about the drills, they are talking about how flight 11, ah, you know, is still around, 20, 40 minutes after it hits the building, you know this is one of te phantom flights. I have Richard Myers before the 911 Commission on the final day saying, yeah they fought many many phantoms that day, and he is sitting next to Eberhardt, and their big claim, its so funny, (?) how Arnold and Myers are all sitting there, their big claim is "oh well, before 9-11 we were looking at outward threats, we weren't looking at anything inward" Now, on June first and second of 2001, they ran a drill called Amalgam Virgo, where a hijacked aircraft from Alaska comes in and hits the Capitol Building, suicide hijacking, and Eberhardt is in this document and his face is in it and there is a message to all those running the drill, so he knows damn well that he is a liar. And the funnier thing is, on the cover is Osama Bin Laden. So they are running a drill with a hijack scenario with Ben Ladin on the cover of the thing, you know, I can't wait to show the final cut to people, because it has so much information that even the movement doesn't talk about.

It's happening."

"I think this is a damn input, to be honest."


Download the Audio Files:

only just over 1mB each!

http://files-upload.com/files/468251/Jason-Bermas_1---1848-1-20070829-20070828_Tue_Barrett2_51m51s.mp3

http://files-upload.com/files/468260/Jason-Bermas_2---1848-1-20070829-20070828_Tue_Barrett2_51m51s.mp3


After I posted the message above on the Loose Change forum, (deadLink) it started to make the rounds but was deleted from LC forums in under 5 minutes flat. My IP and one public-proxy-IP is now banned, my message and my account deleted.
What zealotry! I wonder what their problem is. Maybe they think I am a "disinfo agent".

Anyway, lets forget the children's attitudes, let's have some more facts:

WTC7 : two people that were on TV that day, they said that they were blown up inside Building 7. They were in the stairwell and when they reached the 8th floor suddenly the landing gave way from an explosion underneath them. They were trapped on the 8th floor. One of them was Michael Hess the other Barry Jennings. (CONTINUED further BELOW)

John Schroeder (see below) who was basically the guy who called in the first plan, he went into the first tower that was hit. He says he was in there 5 minutes and all of a sudden the elevators exploded. He said they found a dead body that appeared to be someone that was murdered in the closet. He said they witnessed explosions that threw them around like ping-pong balls after they heard another plane was coming in .. opposite tower... we know the subway blew up, William Rodriguez' testimony is backed up by people like Marlene Cruz and others:

YouTube - Carpenter Marlene Cruz Proves Explosives in ...

On 9/12/2001, Peter Jennings interviews Marlene Cruz, a ...
[Image]Watch video - 5 min - Rated 4.6 out of 5.0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6539gNHXTU


Overwhelming evidence exists that the collapses of the Twin Towers and
Building 7 were instances of controlled demolition, and/or of the
application of exotic weapons such as land-based, air-based or possible
space-based Directed Energy Weapons (DEW). But al-Qaeda operatives
could not have obtained the needed access to the buildings to plant the
explosives and would not have ensured that the buildings come straight
down. Nor could al-Qaeda operatives have obtained command and control
of advanced Directed Energy Weapons, Microfusion devices (4th
generation mini-nuclear weapons), bunker-busters, or other exotic
weapons alternatives that are known to be in the deployment or testing
phase in the US Defense arsenal...

Exercise Vigilant Shield '08 slated for October




YouTube - WTC Basement Explosions (Part 2)

Carpenter Marlene Cruz Survives Explosions in WTC Basement 05 ...
[Image]Watch video - 2 min 2 sec - Rated 4.1 out of 5.0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Lhq02g3UU

more: http://www.google.com/search?q=marlene+%22william+rodriguez%22+wtc

.. we know the lobby was blown up, Brian Reeves ... the parking garage was completely destroyed. They found molten metal in Bulding 6.





Download the Audio Files:
only just over 1mB each!

http://files-upload.com/files/468251/Jason-Bermas_1---1848-1-20070829-20070828_Tue_Barrett2_51m51s.mp3

http://files-upload.com/files/468260/Jason-Bermas_2---1848-1-20070829-20070828_Tue_Barrett2_51m51s.mp3

Jason Bermas from LosseChange911.com got a 20 minute interview with Barry Jennings.
Barry does not want Loose Change to use the interview now. Barry has seen Loose Change and he showed it to people in his office. He know it was bombs, he went to the 911 commission, but he is only 2 years away from retirement and is afraid to loose his pension.
Kevin Ryan was fired, too.

We are Change events New York City 6th

Loose Change Final Cut will premiere in New York City

Big demonstration on the 6. anniversary of the 9/11 atrocities? Not sure if actually AT Ground Zero or a Block away.
Alex Jones ENDGAME where is the download?
First Responders Feelgood Foundation Become the media! Student Scholar for 911 truth get press credentials - Justin Martell - Campus Activism back in fashion




MICHAEL HESS and BARRY JENNINGS (Continued)

In Barry's own voice, Audio Clip
http://prisonplanet.com/audio/190607clips2.mp3

http://noonehastodie.blogspot.com/2007/06/jason-bermas-reveals-his-own-wtc-7.html
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=barry_jennings_1

With the collapse of the two towers, a New York City employee and a WTC 7 building staff person became trapped inside of WTC 7. The two had gone to the OEM center on the 23rd floor and found no one there. As they went to get into an elevator to go downstairs the lights inside of WTC 7 flickered as WTC 2 collapsed. At this point, the elevator they were attempting to catch no longer worked, so the started down the staircase. When they got to the 6th floor, WTC 1 collapsed, the lights wen out in the staircase, the sprinklers came on briefly, and the staircase filled with smoke and debris. The two men went back to the 8th floor, broke out a window, and called for help. Firefighters on the ground saw them and went up the stairs. In addition, a security guard for one of the businesses in the building was also trapped on the 7th floor by the smoke in the stairway. As the firefighters went up, they vented the staircase and cleared some of the smoke. They first met the security officer on the 7th floor and firefighters escorted him down the stairs. Other firefighters from the group continued up the stairs, shined their flashlight through the staircase smoke, and called out. The two trapped men on the 8th floor saw the flashlight beam and heard the firefighters calling and went down the stairs. The firefighters took the men outside and directed them away from the building.


... they are both credible witnesses, in that they would have no reason to lie. There were definitely explosions prior to the demolition.

"After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. He was with Michael Hess, the city's corporation counsel, when they felt and heard another explosion. First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. "I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell," Jennings said."
http://www.record-eagle.com/2001/sep/11scene.htm


this must have been what caused the damaged seen on the lower floors
From 911 research:

Michael Hess, the senior managing director of Giuliani Partners,
Age 46 on 9-11-1, Housing authority worker, reported in to the command center on 23rd floor of WTC building 7 on 9-11-1.
Note: WTC building 7 was evacuated at around 9:00 a.m. on 9-11-1 (while the tower 2 occupants were being told to return to their desks),

911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html
Thus, Barry Jennings’ observation of „another explosion” that devastated the lobby of building was occurred after the 8:46 a.m. initial explosion (impact of the flying object into north wall of north tower) and the evacuation of building 7 around 9:00 a.m.

www.poconorecord.com/report/wtc/1.htm

Barry Jennings, a city employee on the 23rd floor told WABC-TV, "We're dead. I thought I was going to die. I was thinking about my sons, my wife. I started praying."

and this was in building 7!

An unidentified eyewitness told WABC-TV, "I was in the building waiting for an elevator. I felt the explosion. A few seconds later the elevator door opened and the person inside was on fire."
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200109\NAT20010911q.html&PHPSESSID=252b38c2d740adf2258d4fff02862b06]

After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. He was with Michael Hess, the city's corporation counsel, when they felt and heard another explosion. First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. "I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell," Jennings said.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/news.....cene.shtml
original at:
http://www.lifegoeson.net/InTruth/towr01.htm


http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=9933&view=previous&sid=e0b2d1bb89945d08f3633f357d94f548

During their GCN show yesterday
http://69.80.230.7/Archives2/Jun2007/gwrpt1erT/0619071.mp3
Loose Change crew Dylan Avery and Jason Burmas talked about the city official who has told them that he saw explosions inside the WTC 7 long before either of the two towers collapsed. As these explosions could not have resulted from any damage to the building (none had yet been damaged because neither the South Tower nor the North Tower had yet collapsed - indeed, the second plane had not even hit the South Tower when the official witnessed the explosions in WTC 7), they must have been due to bombs, thus proving conspiracy and disproving the official story of 9/11. He also claims to have seen some bodies in the building guarded by police when he arrived there with a city official, who was looking for Mayor Rudy Giuliani (he had already left).

They have agreed with him to keep his name secret until his testimony appears on their new film Loose Change - the Final Cut. But Jason let slip his Christian name during his response to a caller to the show. This enabled his identification as Barry Jennings at the Screw Loose Change website blog
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
As a result, some 9/11 forums are now discussing the issues surrounding Jennings' explosive claims. The cat is out of the bag.
Details about this City Housing Authority worker are at:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=barry_jennings_1
The man was named at Alex Jones' PrisonPlanet website on April 30 this year:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/300407wtc7explosions.ht m
So Jennings has already 'gone public', so to speak, being quoted in the following press article:
"After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. He was with Michael Hess, the city's corporation counsel, when they felt and heard another explosion. First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. "I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell," Jennings said."
http://www.record-eagle.com/2001/sep/11scene.htm

Furthermore, Jennings is interviewed on TV on 9/11 about the explosions in WTC 7, starting about 3m15s into the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IqSsTmWv7k&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fscrewloos echange%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F

If Jennings has anything to worry about, it is not that he is fearing the possible repercussions of whistleblowing for the first time, for he has already spoken publicly about his experiences, which contradict the official story of 9/11 (in particular what happened to WTC 7). It is that he has agreed to be included in Avery's film among the witnesses to explosions prior to the collapse of the twin towers.

http://noonehastodie.blogspot.com/2007/06/jason-bermas-reveals-his-own -wtc-7.html

Watch the first video clip...this is huge news!

6.21.2007
Barry Jennings: World Trade Center 7

Yesterday, The Alex Jones Radio Show had Jason Bermas back on to go over the latest news about World Trade Center Tower 7. Although Bermas slipped and said his first name on national radio, (with an international Internet audience) he is still refusing to confirm the identity of his source, or release the full 20 minute interview (until the unscheduled release of the Final Cut). Some people do not believe a movie release date is the proper timetable for truth. It is clear that the man on the tape is Barry Jennings, Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Mr. Jennings has already gone on the record. On 911 he was on the news covered with debris, like many survivors seen on television that day. Barry Jennings has put his full story on the record with Loose Change, and wanted to remain anonymous until the movie is released. If Jason Bermas had not said his name, that may have been possible, but that is no longer the case.

On the morning of 911 Barry Jennings with Mr. Hess, one of Rudy Giuliani's highest ranking appointed officials, New York city's corporation counsel, (Hess is a Yale and Harvard graduate, a lawyer who has represented the United States in numerous major cases).

It was just after the first attack on the North tower, but before the second plane hit the South Tower, when Barry Jennings escorted Michael Hess to the World Trade Center Tower 7. Mr. Jennings recalls a large number of police officers in the lobby of WTC 7 when they arrived. The two men went up to the 23rd floor, but could not get in, so they went back to the lobby and the police took them up in the freight elevator for a second try. When they arrived on level 23, at the Office of Emergency Management they found it had been recently deserted, "coffee that was on the desk, smoke was still coming off the coffee, I saw half eaten sandwiches".
At that point he made some phone calls, and an un-named individual told them to "leave, and leave right away". Jennings and Hess then proceeded to the stairs, and made it to level 6, when there was an explosion, and the stairwell collapsed from under their feet, Mr. Jennings was actually hanging, and had to climb back up. They made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail, as many debunkers have used Mr. Jennings statements out of context to claim the damage came to WTC 7 from the towers collapsing, not the case according, to Mr. Jennings.

The interview has been cut off where they say how they made it to the lobby, but when they did make it down, Mr. Jennings found it destroyed and littered with dead bodies. He said it looked like, "King Kong had came through it and stepped on it, so destroyed, I didn't know where I was. So destroyed that they had to take me out through a hole in the wall, that I believe the fire department made to get me out." Shortly after he made it out, he was seen on several news channels telling his story.

Mr. Jennings is still confused as to why Building 7 had to come down at all, and does not accept the official reason that the noises he heard were from a fuel oil tank, "I know what I heard, I heard explosions". Michael Hess has not made any public statements about that morning with Barry Jennings, perhaps we can call on wearechange.org to document Michael Hess's account of the events on 911.

Since September 12 2001, there has been growing controversy surrounding World Trade Center 7. In the past few months more people are questioning the governments explanation, and the Main Stream Media's failure to ask important questions. In February the BBC's live report from 911 saying that WTC 7 collapsed a half an hour before the collapse had occurred was completely ignored by the MSM. Around the same time Rosie O'Donnell pushed her 30 million viewers to Google WTC 7. Now Loose Change has captured a 20 minute long interview with a completely credible source, this is huge news, and hopefully they will feel compelled to release some more of the interview. Alex Jones is the executive producer of the latest edition of Loose Change, thus disabling his ability to speak freely about the issue. Hopefully this and other reports will help get Barry Jennings to come out to the public as soon as possible.


Interview with John Schroeder

Interview with John Schroeder. 47 min - Aug 7, 2007. video ...
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9/11 Firefighter Sets the Historical Record Straight

By Manny Badillo, Victim’s Family Member, August 7th, 2007

BROOKLYN, N.Y. - Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspect of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks though corroborates many other eyewitness testimony.

“Standing outside the firehouse with my buddies, we were talking about how beautiful the day was. Then just like that, our lives changed forever. Some of those guys I would never see again.”

In this exclusive interview, Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. “We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?’ and then went straight into the Marriot building” From there, Firefighter Schroeder made his way to the lobby of the North Tower. “It looked like a bomb went off, and we started making our way up the stairs to rescue as many people as we could.”

As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.”

Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower though for some reason “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”.

The stairwells were black, and at that point, firefighters were making the decision to head back down stairs. In making there way down to the third floor, they were not able to find an exit. “The lobby was like a war zone. We could not find our way out. Then, all of a sudden, one of the maintenance workers had a key that opened a back door that got us out of there. He saved my life.” That worker was Willie Rodriguez. “I want to thank him from the bottom of my heart.

Firefighter Schroeder today has lost 40% of his lung capacity. “We haven’t been treated properly at all. From the day of the attack, our physical and mental health has deteriorated and it seems as if no one cares. To lose friends, to have to recover their bodies in the days after, to be offered no protections against that horrific-smelling dust that was everywhere even though the government said the air was OK to breathe is just not right.” Some of Firefighter’s Schroeder’s best friends have gotten out of the FDNY altogether while others accepted money and trips to help. “I stayed right here and did the right thing and now it feels as if I’m suffering the most. Where is our government to help the one’s with the toughest jobs on that day and the days after?”

John Schroeder, we want to thank you for being as brave as your job requires in speaking out about your experiences on Sept/ 11th. You have set the historical record straight by explaining your story. This Nation is forever greatful to you as your account will help to save and protect many more lives.

Today, tens of thousands of such 9/11 first responders are in dire need of medical care due to the environmental conditions after the 3 towers imploded at Ground Zero. Diagnosed with cancers and debilitating respiratory illnesses, these true American heroes have been denied the financial benefits required to save their lives. While suffering and deteriorating, their health crisis has been ignored by state and federal policy. Many have already died.

Composed of family members, friends and fellow Americans of individuals who perished on that fateful day, We are Change will fight to raise awareness and consciousness to the first responder's illnesses and hardships. We are determined to put a face to the thousands of forgotten victims of the 9/11 attacks 6 years later.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

What to know what really happened on Tues, Sept, 11 2001?

GOLBAL GUARDIAN

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Thursday, August 30, 2007 at 5:22:00 PM PDT  
Blogger batcave911 said...

"22:47 american 11 the original guy is still airborne
We do have a tail number... N334AA
He is kinda smart, he knew exactly what he wanted us to do."


The "ORIGINAL GUY ?"
"He knew EXACTLY what he WANTED US TO DO ?"

ANyone else think this a bit strange ?

They find out the tail number for the plane after it crashed, but when they still think the plane is flying ?

if the squawk code was OFF , how did they know what plane it was ?

"He is kinda smart, he knew exactly what he wanted us to do."

Sounds to me like they still were not sure if it was real-world or exercise ?

read the
Cleveland Airport Mystery


and


Plane Swap Over Pennsylvania

Friday, August 31, 2007 at 2:01:00 PM PDT  

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