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Handschuh Photo -- simultaneous explosions IN OTHER TOWER
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Re: Impact Holes ... WTC TOWER aeroplane silhouttes ...
DO YOU SEE THE WHITE EXPLOSION CLOUD IN THE LEFT TOWER?
Please leave comments and tell me what your observations / conclusions are.
To me nothing of the visual evidence really makes sense. See PlaneImpact and Damage. I suggest that China or Russia (or Iran, or France) recreates 20 floors worth of World Trade Center, and then flies a 767 into it... Only then we will know what the effect looks like. My guess is that it looks VERY different.
My favourite photo still is the one that you see on the left, it's history is told here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=handschuh+photo+wtc
Another version:
http://wtc10048nyc.free.fr/120.html
Apart from the MISSING PLANE DEBRIS and the weird explosion it shows the simultaneous explosions IN THE OTHER TOWER (north tower).
One can ALSO see them in a VIDEO (sorry, I don't have the link now)
It is a short snippet (30seconds? avi?) where some video-editor inserted WHITE WRITING pointing out
a person standing in the corner of the NORTH TOWER and at the exact moment the explosion happenes in the south tower, is he falling down... there is even a hint of explosion at the corner (above the N-tower-explosion-hole) where he was standing.
In other words.. it is CLEARLY shown that explosions in the NORTH TOWER happen at the exact moment that they exploded the SOUTH TOWER.
Like Andrew Grove (sp?) said: The whole thing was a magicians trick to divert your attention
The witness Rodriguez (WTC janitor) also described in his affidavit the huge explosions IN THE BASEMENT of the NORTH TOWER seconds B-E-F-O-R-E the explosion happens 80 floors above.
There is more... please leave comments and lets collect evidence for SIMULTANEOUS EXPLOSIONS IN THE TOWERS.
COMMENTS:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fN
what Ive never understood is
what Ive never understood is when you watch some videos , when the plane hits there is screams of surprise and horror...other videos there is almost no audible response to witnessing a plane crash right above or near them.
Some, as the one posted here, make me wonder who shot the footage and why they dont seem to surprised by it. You can clearly hear the man whistle as he pans out to show how much smoke there is as if that impresses him..but the plane crash doesnt get any response at all.
also...if the man is filming
also...if the man is filming the burning tower, why is it the tower that gets hit is centerframe? Clearly, in my opinion, this man expected that tower to be hit.
Thought problem regarding evidence of controlled demo
Re: 10 best pieces of evidence for public debate (from Scholars forum) Reference to article: www.911blimp.net/prf_Free...sics.shtml
I have a colleague who has had a lot of trouble with the "free fall" speed of the collapses of WTC's 1, 2, and 7. I mean he glosses over this issue and I have never pressed it, per se. Mainly because while I thought about it a bit a year+ ago. Now, every time somebody references it (like Griffin, etc) I barely note it. But then I read the article noted above. And a person like me... while I am a neuroscientist, I don't usually think in terms of physics... And I am sure he doesn't really think through those implications either. Because he does not really want to believe for psychological reasons. But when you do think through the physics.....
Here is the reason why. Think of it this way. Every single floor of any of the WTC tower would offer what kind of resistance to a falling body? You know, the upper floor(s) falling down? Remember that each floor is a spider web of trusses, beams, the central core connecting all together at -each- level, each floor. Do you suppose each floor might add a second's worth of resistance over that encountered if there were simply -air- there instead of all those bolts, trusses, beams etc.? Or might it be 2 seconds? 3? or 4? For the sake of argument let me say, absurdly, that all of that steel and structure would add only .5 second over the resistance of air alone. Air just by itself. On average. Remember, the upper floors would have provided more resistance as the mass and its velocity was just getting started, I suppose. How many seconds would it take for the entire building to collapse into rubble? Well, how many floors were there in WTC 1?
110 floors in WTC 1. So at .5 second per floor that is what, 55 seconds? How long did it take for the entire thing to come down?
10 + or - a few milliseconds. Just 10. Free fall speed. How can that be? There can be but one conclusion. It thus appears incontrovertibly true that *all* the resistance of the lowers floor had to be removed (removing all structural resistance - but not air resistance of course) as the upper structure fell. And the resistance not only * removed* but removed mostly equally across all of the surface at each level (otherwise the building might have toppled over sideways) during the collapse.
The only falling buildings that have * ever * fit that profile of collapse are buildings undergoing controlled demolition.
And as an aside, I wonder that part of the reason some folks get into thinking of energy weapons and the like being used is that the falls of WTC 1 and 2 almost seems too damn fast for physics to explain. Along with the pulverizing, *dematerializing* of the lower structures, glass and stuff as the building fell. That stuff is way past my measely knowledge of physics but the "controlled demolition" - however accomplished, appears to be solid scientific fact.
Thus, at least this part of the government's conspiracy theory fails. Miserably.
the angle of the sun tells all in this photo
the white cloud on the other tower, is the explosion from the other side of the south tower, and at the angle the morning sun is hitting it it's illuminating all the dust particles. contrasted with the shadow on the other tower it looks anomolous.
This is NOT evidence of "controlled explosions"...
What we are seeing in this photo, and indeed in all photos and videos showing what is thought to be evidence of secondary or "controlled" explosions", has a simple yet tragic explaination.
As the heat of the fire severly weaken and compomised the strength of the girders holding the floors above them the concrete floors simply collapsed onto the floors below them. The air (filled with debris) was quickly expelled through the broken windows thus showing the "smoke" that we see in this picture and in the videos. This is the same as clapping your hands together and feeling the air being expelled from between the palms of your hands. Imagine if you had some powder in your hand as you quickly clapped them together...same effect as you are seeing in this picture. The powder is, in this case, the dust and debris being forced out through the broken windows of the tower as each floor above collapses into the floors below.
This also accounts for the other "explosions" being heard by some of the firefighters as well.
explosion visible on east side
Puffs of smoke on the east side of the North Tower, at the time of the impact, can be seen at the msnbc.com site:
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=b65b02ee-76ff-4bc3-be24-c8ba130bab...
This photo has been altered.
This photo has been altered. The sky above the smoke is a different blue than that below. The smoke from the North Tower has been blackened also. Not a plane - a large missile for sure.
Brianv you are a fluffy
Brianv you are a fluffy animal.
Handschuh is a professional photographer.. he probably used a sky-shading filter in fron of his lens.
> a large missile for sure.
How old are you? 6 years old?
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Hit Pentagon to kill wargamers ...
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Why the Pentagon?
assuming that it is INCORRECT that ARABS who flew a passenger jet into the pentagon, it is likely that:
The Pentagon was hit intentionally, and precisely to kill the "right" people:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/pentagon.victims.h...
Lets start with SENIOR people:
Gerald P. Fisher, 57, Potomac, Maryland, Booz-Allen & Hamilton Inc.
Confirmed dead, Pentagon, at/in building
Booz Allen is unique among elite strategy consulting firms in having a large government business—a business that goes back to work Ed Booz conducted for the U.S. Navy in 1940.
Historically, we’ve kept our commercial and government work separate. This is changing, and will change even more, this year and beyond. Our government clients want the benefit of commercial “best practices,” while our corporate clients want the special expertise we’ve developed through our government work—in areas as diverse as information security, space, wargaming, transportation, and ... source
Hear, hear! Private Wargames... computers ... old Navy connections ..
Capt. Lawrence Daniel Getzfred, 57, Elgin, Nebraska, U.S. Navy
Confirmed dead, Pentagon, at/in building
US Navy AVIATION
good research:
http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/fatalities.html
this research NEEDS WORK! I started a WIKI page for every WargamePentagonVictim
http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/wiki/index.php/Pentagon_Attack_Victims
PLEASE HELP WITH THE WORK of researching the victims and their functions.
COMMENTS:
Vedy Vedy interesting. I've
Vedy Vedy interesting. I've heard that a lot of the guys who got whacked at the Pentagon were involved in finances, as well. Is this true? It would gel with the missing trillions. We need to explore this in more detail. Oh yeah, and if you're wondering why most (all?) family members of the dead military guys don't speak out, take a look at the interview with Kay Griggs. The inner core of the M.I.C. is creepy beyond belief. They'll do stuff like break into your house and re-arrange your clothes and silverware just to mind-fuck you and remind you you're living under a microscope. If there are any indications that a wife, say, of some high-ranking general is in danger of going public about the drugs and private island orgies and pedophiia and gun-running etc. they send you to a mental institution -- or worse.
The top echelons of the M.I.C. are like a bunch of caligulas -- no shit. They're fuckin' nuts. they have ZERO boundaries. Eyes Wide Sut wasn't the half of it.
I'm not sure it helps regular activists to penetrat that deep down the rabbit hole, however. When you realize the true extent of their depravity it's like you're fighting Satan himself. Which is scary. So I tend to stay away from the Satanic cult -- MKULTRA - pedophilia ring stuff, if only for my own sanity. These people are are not Satan, they are humans, they are evil but they are also deeply unhappy, and we can help them and more importalty, ourselves, by deconstructing the mechanisms of power that allow 0.1 percent of the population to rape the earth.
Viva la revolution
I started with passenger
I started with passenger research back in late 2001, early 2002 (influenced also by Phd.Gary North) , when i still believed in remote control scenarios (and only 1 tv footage was dramatized on purpose).
http://tinyurl.com/k6fbj
Here from my archives incl. an updated analysis in 2004.
Also always recommended the Passenger Research of
Gerard Holmgren (2003/04)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/288505.shtml
http://911review.org/inn.globalfreepress/lost_terror_drills_11a.html
The lost "terror drill"? Pt.11 (A)
...
6)
If you carefully analyse the official passenger list of AA11, you will realise a strong pattern of hitech-, aviation- or military background.
Did these passengers participate in a secret terror drill, but not aware about the outcome?:
Some examples:
David P. Kovalcin, senior mechanical engineer at Raytheon in Tewksbury
Peter Gay, vice president of operations Raytheon in Andover, Mass.,
Laura Lee Morabito, national sales manager for Qantas Airways
Albert Dominguez, baggage handler for Qantas Airways
Laura Lee Morabito, Qantas Airways area sales manager
Renee Lucille Newell, American Airlines customer service agent
Kenneth E. Waldie, senior quality control engineer at Raytheon
Anna Williams Allison, founder of A2 Software Solutions
Alex Filipov, electrical engineer
N. Janis Lasden, General Electric
Daniel C. Lewin, Akamai Technologies Inc., formerly member of Israel Intelligence Unit
Renee Newell, customer service agent with American Airlines
Jane Orth, retired from Lucent Technology
Jeffrey Coombs, security analyst for Compaq Computer
Paul Friedman, consultant for Emergence Consulting
Edmund Glazer, MRV Communications
Or was "flight 11" even drilled as a pilot for a "terror" reality TV show, with real actors?:
David Angell, executive producer of the hit NBC sitcom "Frasier."
Lynn Angell, the wife of "Frasier" creator
Thomas Pecorelli, cameraman for Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television
Berry Berenson, actress and photographer. Widow of actor Anthony Perkins
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, was a spiritual adviser
Sonia Morales Puopolo, retired ballet dancer
Furthermore 8 models or designers of TJX Cos., an off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions.
...
Flight 175 aka N612UA
One of their official "passengers", Herbert Homer (ex-Raytheon), was originally reported, as missing at the Pentagon wing, which was officially hit by Flight77.
...
also the passenger list of AA77 included a strong pattern of high tech-, aviation- and military background connections:
John D. Yamnicky Sr., a retired naval aviator for Veridian*
William E. Caswell, a third-generation physicist at the Navy
Wilson Flagg, U.S. Navy Admiral and pilot with American Airlines before his retirement
Stanley Hall, director of program management with Raytheon
Bryan Jack, budget analyst/director with the Defense Department
Chandler "Chad" Raymond Keller, Project Manager with Boeing Satellite Systems
Dong Lee, engineer with Boeing Co.
Ruben Ornedo, another propulsion engineer with Boeing
Robert Penninger, electrical engineer with BAE Systems
Robert R. Ploger III, software architect with Lockheed Martin
John Sammartino, technical manager for XonTech Inc.
Leonard Taylor, another technical manager at XonTech
Vicki Yancey, a former naval electronics technician
Barbara Olson, Conservative TV Commentator
Karen Kincaid, partner at the Washington law firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding, on her way to attend a wireless industry conference. Wiley Rein & Fielding was also part of the Bush Cheney Transition team 2001.
Steven 'Jake' Jacoby, chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., one of the nation's largest paging companies
Did some of them participate in a passive or active terror drill?
Did Barbara Olsen "moderate" a reality TV drill?
(also:)
...The complete list of the passengers who were not supposed to be on Flight 93 is long, with many different "explanations". Some of them had been booked on Flight 91*:
Tom Burnett changed from Flight 91 on the morning of September 11.
LLauren Grandcolas arrived early and changed from Flight 91.
Don and Jean Peterson arrived too early, then changed their plane.
Mark Bingham reserved the night before, flying on a companion pass.
Christine Snyder changed her return flight three times before finally
settling for Flight 93 (date of change unknown).
Nicole Miller missed her connection flight and therefore switched to Flight 93.
Sandy Bradshaw, wife of US Airways pilot Phil Bradshaw, cut her flights to the bare minimum, two two-day trips a month from Newark to San Francisco or to Los Angeles.
Bradshaw picked up Flight 93 late in the planning.
2/25/2002
http://tinyurl.com/mu973
Passengers on hijacked planes connected to Global Hawk
1)
Herbert Homer, described as "..worked for Raytheon Co." was more than only a
worker for Ratheon.
He was the DCE CACO under DCMC Commander - Col. Bryon Young of the RSC
Corporate Management (Raytheon)
Source: http://www.acq-ref.navy.mil/reflib/raytheon.pdf
...
newer summary:
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1370.post
Raytheon- 9/11 plotline: Important details
Oct 10 2005,
Flight 11:
Peter Gay was Raytheon�s Vice President of Operations for Electronic Systems and had been on special assignment to a company office in El Segundo, Calif.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html
This division is one of two divisions making the Global Hawk. (ISR Journal, 3/02)
Kenneth Waldie was a senior quality control engineer for Raytheon�s electronic systems.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html
David Kovalcin was a senior mechanical engineer for Raytheon�s electronic systems.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html
Flight 175:
Herbert Homer was a corporate executive working with the Department of Defense.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua175.victims.html
And for some very strange reasons he was listed for several days as having died in the while working in the Pentagon.
Flight 77:
Stanley Hall was director of program management for Raytheon Electronics Warfare.
One Raytheon colleague calls him "our dean of electronic warfare."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/12/victim-capsule-flight77.h...
Charles S. Falkenberg:
He worked on "EOS Webster" a mapping system which provides Landsat Images, which are part of the mapping system for the Global Hawk technology.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020302091225/http://ivanova.gsfc.nasa.gov/h...
...
Now, if this is not coincidental enough for you:
What are the odds that Raytheon also had one office in the WTC2?
(AP, 9/11/01)
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/tenants.html
It was located in 91st floor in WTC2.
Raytheon shared the floor with Washington Group and Gibbs&Hill.
While 13 employees of Washington Group died
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-employer/page101....
None died of Raytheon and Gibbs&Hill:
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-employer/page101....
...Someone called Sherry Williams (she worked at Army
Missile Command) had prior knowledge, that Raytheon 'must have been' on "Flight 11".
Why????
http://www.legacy.com/Guestbook.asp?PersonID=91796
September 11, 2005
from the "Guest Book for Peter Gay"
"...When I learned that the planes were out of Boston, I immediately thought that there must have been people from Raytheon onboard...."
Sherry Williams (Huntsville, AL )
...Raytheon-Homer died twice
http://tinyurl.com/6gkyr
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 14, 2001
"...The Department of Defense announced today ten additional names of the approximately 126 persons who remain unaccounted for in the wake of Tuesday's attack on the Pentagon...
...Herbert Homer, Milford, Mass...
September 15, 2001
"...The Department of Defense announced today that Herbert W. Homer, a civilian employee of the Defense Contract Management Agency, was among the passengers aboard United Airlines Flight # 175, which crashed into the World Trade Center. He was previously listed in error as unaccounted at the Pentagon..."
Homer's flight with Dick Cheney's envoy
http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0902/homer.html
From Lt. Col. Derek Green
Andrews Air Force Base, Md.
"...Remember our days at McGuire Air Force Base...
Remember that mission we flew to Russia? We were the third C-141 ever allowed to fly into Tblisi, Georgia, and we were carrying Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney�s envoy....
...Thanks my brother. I�ll miss you...."
The three phonetic "Peter H.'s"
I made another simplified list to show, what kind of strange coincidences we have to deal with...
1)
Peter Paul Hashem aka Peter el-Hachem
officially listed on "AA11"
officially dead
no phone calls
worked at Teradyne, Inc. (affiliated with Raytheon)
Company specialised in Automatic Phone/Broadband Test
Equipment
2)
Peter Hanson
officially listed on "UA175"
officially dead
officially did make phone calls
worked at TimeTrade Systems, Inc. (Raytheon ties not
directly established yet, but see below)
Company is specialised in "Appointment Scheduling
Software"
3)
Peter Hansen aka -email-
was not listed on any flights (or i am not aware of
that phonetic spelling yet)
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works at Teradyne, Inc. (affiliated with Raytheon)
apparently alive (works right now on "AUTOTESTCON
2005")
I also checked out TimeTrade (Person no. 2) at
http://www.timetrade.com/
to find possible government- or military links.
So far i only found associations with Datawatch
Corporation, Personics Corporation, Lionbridge,
Dataware, Autographix, Personics, SmartNotes, SeeMORE,
and UltraVision.
Didn't check further for military links yet...
BUT Carl Lambert, Vice President of Product
Development (TimeTrade) "began his career with the U.S. Air Force working on advanced fighter avionics systems", which brings us possibly back to other plausible Raytheon links.
Source:
http://www.timetrade.com/aboutus_team.asp
Check out also:
Dying twice on 9/11: Meet Titus Davidson
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1785
UA vs. AA -the 9/11 Timeline 'screw-up'
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1978
9/11 perps and profiteers
9/11 perps and profiteers the same?
from
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1901.90#post...
Co.'s of Interest: Military Contractor News
Sat Sep 16 2006, 01:16AM
Triple Northrop Contract Success
Northrop to Build NYC Wireless Network
September 14, 2006 - 8:20AM
http://tinyurl.com/e9ymp (theage.com.au)
The city has awarded defense contractor Northrop Grumman Corp. a $500 million contract to build a wireless network that will let police and firefighters plug into city computer systems, even when they are rushing to emergencies.
Police hunting for a suspect would be able to download a mug shot or view surveillance video. Fire chiefs might use the system to map the location of each unit or see around a wall of smoke and flames by getting live aerial footage of a burning building, beamed in from a hovering helicopter.
Other city officials could even use the system to read water meters or alter traffic light cycles to relieve vehicle congestion.
Northrop said it would take five years to finish building the small radio antennas that will stretch the system across more than 300 square miles, but the network is expected to be operational by spring 2008.
Once complete, the network will work a lot like a giant version of the wireless routers people use for laptop computers in their homes...
...The city picked Northrop over the telecommunications company Motorola Inc. after a six-month, $2.7 million test of their competing systems in lower Manhattan...
Applied Perception gets government contract
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2006/09/11/daily31.html
Pittsburgh Business Times - 11:08 AM EDT
Thursday September 14, 2006
Applied Perception Inc., a robotics firm, announced Thursday that it has been awarded a $928,000 government contract.
The contract from the National Center for Defense Robotics will help to support the development and evaluation of the technology the company is developing, API develops and licenses robotics-related technology for unmanned ground vehicles in the fields of defense, transportation and agriculture. With the additional funding, it hopes to develop technologies that will make these robots faster and safer...
...Cranberry-based API will be partnering with Northrop Grumman Corp.'s (NYSE:NOC) Remotec Inc., a remote systems engineering firm, on the projects...
Northrop Grumman Gets $142.8M Navy Deal
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4190609.html
© 2006 The Associated Press
Sept. 15, 2006, 4:33PM
WASHINGTON — The Navy on Friday awarded a more than $142.8 million contract modification to a division of defense contractor Northrop Grumman Corp. to continue work on the USS Toledo nuclear submarine.
The contract, awarded to Northrop Grumman Newport News Corp. in Newport News, Va., allows for maintenance and equipment upgrades to enable the submarine to continue to be mission capable, according to the Navy.
Click to learn more...
Contract work is expected to be completed by February 2008.
http://www.washingtontechnology.com/news/21_17/special-report/29222-1.ht...
09/04/06; Vol. 21 No. 17
9/11 Aftermath
By Alice Lipowicz
Staff Writer
Five years later, terrorist attacks continue to influence the government IT industry
Northrop Grumman Corp. executive Bruce Walker was attending a conference in Northern Virginia when aides rushed into the room and told him that the Pentagon was under attack by terrorists. It was shortly before 10 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2001. ..
...In the months after 9/11, realigning government to fight terrorism was “chaotic and a real eye-opener,” said Walker, now vice president of strategic planning for homeland security for Northrop Grumman. Federal defense contractors and systems integrators wanted their expertise to be part of the solution, he said...
...At Northrop and other systems integrators, new homeland security business units were born, and divisions rearranged to address new national priorities: information-sharing, preparedness, emergency communications, infrastructure protection and identity management, among others.
Computer Sciences Corp. reorganized its intelligence, security and enforcement units into a single division to better serve the federal government in its new homeland security role, said Jim Schaeffer, president of the federal sector. BearingPoint Inc. also set up a homeland security office...
...Stock prices for systems integrators since then have reflected those perceptions: Lockheed Martin Corp.’s stock price has risen from $36 per share at closing Sept. 10, 2001, to late August’s price of $84 per share, adjusted. Over the same period the share price for Boeing Co. rose from $40 to $77; for CSC, from $34 to $47; General Dynamics Corp., from $35 to $69; Northrop Grumman, from $38 to $66; and Raytheon Co., from $23 to $47. ...
...double-clutching giants
Defense contractors such as Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon were able to move quickly into homeland security because they had the available personnel and technology...
...The most watched contracts, however, are for groundbreaking new programs that use and integrate new technologies. Most prominent among these is the Secure Border Initiative Network, a comprehensive border surveillance system that is one of DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff’s top priorities. The contract is expected to be in the $2 billion range. Five teams, led by systems integrators Boeing, Ericsson Inc., Lockheed, Northrop and Raytheon, are competing for the award, which is expected within weeks. Much of the money will be spent on cameras, sensors and network integration.
Why the Pentagon?
this story might also have to do with the attack on the pentagon!
we can not track 2.3 trillion dollars!
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BUSH: planted EXPLOSIVES inside WTC!!
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Bush TELLS of planted EXPLOSIVES INSIDE THE WTC!
500kB mp3 audio snippet (broadcast quality, wink, nod, prod, hint)
For Immediate Release -- Office of the Press Secretary -- September 15, 2006 -- Press Conference of the President -- The Rose Garden -- President's Remarks -- 11:15 A.M. EDT
Blah blah ...we need to torture, because...
Bush: For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.
Bush HESITATES twice and gives away more than he is saying... he uses REVERSE LOGIC.. if the explosives are planted HIGH in the building.. there are LESS floors above where people can get trapped. i.e. If the OPERATIVES wanted to MINIMIZE the bloodbath they would WANT TO plant explosives HIGH in the building.
Also, WHY is this valuable information? Since nobody in the Bush admin did anything to prevent it, the VALUE of the information could only illustrate how negligent the Bush admin was. But this is a red herring anyway! The Bush junta is starting to COVER ITS ARSE ... My guess is that Bush's handlers have instructed Shrub to GIVE A CODED WARNING to the operatives that there are documents to be released which will EXPOSE and confirm the use of explosives... they are giving out the DIRECTIVE FOR SPIN:
- The "operatives" planted explosives... how ludicrous is that? Arabs planting tons of explosives! and oooh hooo.. SUDDENLY we discoverd that it was NOT JUST THE FUEL that brought the towers down and slaughtered 3000 New Yorkers... maybe they will also give medals to 911-truthers that HELPED to UNCOVER THIS EVIL PLOT.
Here are the references. ... look: http://news.google.com/news?q=%22%20TO%20ENSURE%20THAT%20THE%20EXPLOSIVE...
and http://www.google.com/search?q=%22+TO+ENSURE+THAT+THE+EXPLOSIVES+WENT+OF...
The whitehouse website transcript: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html
REAL VIDEO: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.v.html
NETTRANSPORT capture stream: rtsp://a257.v5913b.c5913.g.vr.akamaistream.net/ondemand/7/257/
5913/450af795/whitehouse.download.akamai.com/5913/2006/09/20060915-2.v.rm
At least now we can all say:
The president implied that explosives brought the towers down.
Stunning! I think you guys may not realize what that means!
Every foreign leader can now ask:
How much explosives?
How did the explosives get there?
Why do we hear this 5 years after?
Is the FBI in a coma?
COMMENTS:
What IS he talking about?!
What IS he talking about?!
If we give you Bush will you go away?
I think Bush is being set up to take the fall for 911. Scarborough has posted on Huffington Post several times recently suggesting that Bush is mentally incapable. Scarborough is clearly inner circle in the NWO - anyone who can get away with murder (Lori Klausutis) is clearly very high up in the secret government.
So I think we are going to be offered Bush as the new high-level patsy. This is because the Republicans cannot think beyond the Democratic “opposition”. They believe that most of the 911 Truth movement consists of bush-haters, and that we will go away if they give up Dubya. Are they in for a rude awakening!
I think he said it
Two issues here, Bush's statement and patsy-ness:
A) Regarding his statement, this could be construed to mean "that the planes hit" high up, but he did specifically say "exploSIVES", not "exploSIONS". I think that's some major leakage in the S.S. New World Order.
B) Even Kerry-voters and worse know that Bush is just a talking head who can barely tie his own shoes (at least, that's all he's allowed to be for the NWO role-play he's bonded to, but that that's a role he's forced into basically all the time), so offering Bush as a patsy would, across the board, be the most significantly provocative action the planners could take. If they said that it wasn't Al-Qaida, that it was Bush, people would reject this out of hand and begin to question who it really was, and who it really is behind the presidency and the rest of it.
And then it's open season on the invisible government exposure project.
Correction
That is, open season on the invisible government by those with enough knowledge to expose it.
Piece by piece, name by name.
911
September 11 2006
Michael John Wegrzyn Sr
20414 Keswick St
Winnetka California 91306
MikeRuSober@yahoo.com
1-216-543-2472
THE WIND THAT SHOOK THE BARLEY
"...i hear the wind begin to howl....and the wind cries freedom..."
The truth about 9/11 is that we don’t KNOW the truth about 9/11, and we should.
Says Bowman: 'If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding everything?'
And: 'The most unbelievable of all the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 is the OFFICIAL conspiracy theory.'
Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, for 30 years in charge of Dept. of Defense photo analysis, and numerous commercial pilots, all of whom, after reviewing the evidence, agree that something other than commercial aircraft struck targets on 9/11.
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_remotev.htm
"Are you out of your f------ mind? That, ladies and gentlemen, is the title of this talk because what I plan to talk is remote viewing").
http://www.stubblebinefamily.com/content/gen_albert.html
Dec. 29 2005
Mike Wegrzyn
Remote viewed for William Rodriguez (911 janitor) and Intel people at the 911 mysteries play on Santa Monica Blvd. in Hollywood California. I viewed numbers and letters for them. PSI-Tech says this is impossible.
Remote viewed for personnel and Intel people at the David Icke presentation in Weed California.
Then after posting the letter below I was contacted at the New Port Beach AA Alano Club by different Intel people about this posting. They said it was enough to piss people off for the next 100 years... he he..... I then did reading at a distance for them....(see below)
My wife, kids and myself have been monitored at meetings and every thing else in my life you can think of.
Please wake up America
http://911blogger. com
http://v911t. org/
http://st911. org/
http://tvnewslies. org/
http://rbnlive. com/index. html
http://www.arcticbe acon.com/ index.html
He who thinks he is free is bound by the strongest cage of all.....[Americans].....You are mind controlled to think you are free from birth.
In the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous, pg. 263 fourth edition "Dr. Bob always emphasized the religious angle very strongly"...................he was wrong too........organized religion is mental illness! [ period! ] Organized religion is to keep you like a mushroom...in the dark and feed you as much shit as you can handle. [fox news]
Russell Targ in his book Limitless Mind states that on, pg.# 27 "Pat was the most remarkable psychic we'd ever encountered---and he remains the only one able to read printed words at a distance .In the book Psychic Voyages released in 1976 from England which had info about SRI, Targ,Swann etc. also had info about a prophet reading at a distance. " I have the utmost respect for Russell Targ but he is wrong too... Ed Dames received the Merit of Legion award for reading Russian material while captain of the once top secret stare-gate team during the cold war.
I also have read printed words at a distance from books, news papers, computer screens, TV and so on about 911, way back in January and February of 2001.
Pat Price (police commissioner from Burbank California) was in a Top Secret program at SRI called Star-gate when he was murdered in Las Vegas.
Transcending fear is a key because we are controlled by fear.
The Illuminates greatest fear is remote viewing because it can expose there evil plans into the future. Remote viewing is being suppressed because it will change the world power structure. Stanford Research Institute has made the greatest discovery in world history and it is also being suppressed. Also it was discovered that remote viewing is an innate ability to all humans which means anybody on the planet can learn this once top secret mind skill.
Iraq: Send in Kevin! Britney Spears, the ‘Toxic’ star of Depleted Uranium
http://uruknet.info/?p=19057&hd=0&size=1&l=x
Grand Architect of the Universe (G.A.O.T.U.)
http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/dna.html
33rd Parallel Masonic Line of Death Row Human Sacrifice Ritual
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/33rd-parallel-masonic-line-of-death-...
...change your thinking and you change your world.
"...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." - Samuel
Adams
The Matrix
remote viewing......there are no secrets there never were. remote viewing is like painting pictures on the canvas of your mind.
AA..remote viewed history making events in Cleveland Ohio.
NA..remote viewed history making events in Lake LA
California.
David Icke http://www.davidicke.com/content/blogcategory/30/48/
http://www.davidicke.com/content/category/6/19/33/
The Artic BeaconhttpDowning Street Memo
David Morehouse (CIA)
Ingo Swann (SRI) http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/
Remote Viewer - 001- Joe McMoneagle predicted, ( P.A.T./ Parents Against Television )
...also,Index of /911/underground...Deception Dollar...William Henry...letsroll911.org
...and lets not forget Lenny Bloom /CLOAKandDAGGER.de
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/
...IOU - RALLY OF THE UNLEARNED http://www.unlearning.org/editor38.htm
...prison planet http://www.prisonplanet.com/
...Down with murder inc. by captain wardrobe
http://www.rinf.com/
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/911-vendetta
http://www.whatthebleep.com/rabbithole/
http://www.thegreatillusion.com/
http://www.themeatrix.com/
In February of 2001 I downloaded from the matrix hundreds of exact and precise packets of info and details of 911. If you learn remote viewing you will change yourself and by changing yourself you can and will change the world.
Take the red pill and learn the truth.
Religious deception is painless inoculation against truth. It cannot be removed from the conscience with surgery, yet it is the motivator of our actions and directly controls our lives. Once man gives over to false religion, he is no longer rational because he originates no thought. His life is controlled by whomever controls his religion.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness, in a descending spiral of destruction. The chain reaction of evil must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
RV WEB SITES
Remote Viewing the Real Story - An Autobiographical Memoir by Ingo Swann
Joe McMoneagle's Home Page
Hawai'i Remote Viewers' Guild
Physics-Intuition-Applications
Remote Viewing Instructional Services
Firedocs Collections
International Remote Viewing Association
SIDHI - Controlled Remote Viewing - Mexico
Mind is the final frontier
http://www.psitech.net/main.htm
PSIINT
Omnidimensional Data Acquisition
Transdimensional Knowledge Mapping
The center for mind warfare
http://www.matrixintelligenceagency.com/
"Deciphering the Senses: The Expanding World of Human Perception" by Robert Rivlin and Karen Gravelle (Simon and Schuster, 1984). This book reports on SEVENTEEN physical senses identified by bio-neurologists during
the 1970s. And the book's last chapter considers "Extra-Sensory Perception" not particularly as a paranormal or "psychic" thing, but as extensions of the bio-body's very many sensory receptors.
http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Your17Senses.html
http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/superpowers.html
What, then, is an "eight-martini" result? Well, this is an intelligence community in-house term for remote viewing data so good that it cracks everyone's realities. So they have to go out and drink eight martinis to recover. Remote viewing does have its amusing aspects, you know.
**
Regardless of official and media misdirecting, the general world knows now that remote viewing exists. Soon other nations will utilize it for their own interests.
So official and media misdirecting is shooting Uncle Sam in his feet -- just for the hell of it and a few sensationalizing laughs.
It is time to fire the liars.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is
for good men to do nothing" .
--Edmund Burke
UNITE AND ARISE FOR SURVIVAL
"Each of us is put here in this time and this place to
personally decide the future of humankind. Did you
think you were put here for something less?"
--- Chief Arvol Looking Horse ---
Great Spirit, whose heart hears our pleas,
Help us to find the way to end this abuse.
Great Spirit, whose wisdom knows the answer,
help us to find the way for others to understand.
Great Spirit, whose love speads to all,
help us to find the way to restore our lives to tranquility.
Great Spirit, whose creatures are being destroyed,
help us to find a way to strengthen them.
Great Spirit, whose gifts to us are being lost in selfishness and corruption,
help us to find the way to restore our humanity.
Oh, Great Spirit, whose voice I hear in the wind,
whose breath gives life to the world, hear me;
I need your strength and wisdom.
May I walk in Beauty.
Knowing you are more than Human
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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
Herbert Spencer
God Save Us From Religion
A message to the Illuminati...........never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.....he he ;-) ...set the world free or the world will set you free.
"Should I keep back my opinions at such a time through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty towards the majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings."
-- Patrick Henry, 23 March 1775, in his Liberty or Death speech at St. John's Church in Richmond
Bush's Speech
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was involved in many different terrorist plots, not only Sept. 11th. The presidents reference to him could have been about any number of attacks, not only Sept. 11th. Watching the "truth" movement grab onto any scrap of wording and spin it in ways that would make producers and writers in the fox news press room blush is what made me distance myself from it. How that spin is gobbeled up by the "ever important foot soldiers" without question made me ignore it. Im well aware of the fact that the truth isnt being offered up by our governement, and never will, but the manipulation of every word from the administration reaks of shear desperation, ignorance, and if I were to read as much into it as what was read into Bush's speach... I hope you can follow my line of thought. I know Ill be told to "wake up!" and that Im stupid, but before you open your mouths, or crack your knuckles for some furious key typing, question who put those words in your head that your about to type. The same speel is rattled out verbatim by every foot soldier. Total nonsense, think for yourselves folks, check the facts these people try to sppon feed you. The assurances that what youre hearing or reading has been researched, checked, and has sources is a warning signal for you to go check what youre being told. The claims made before those statements never seem to hold up after any scrutiny. Anyone with the ability to google Khalid Sheikh Mohammeds name would have seen that he was involved in many more terrorist plots than Sept. 11th. Saying that this is some sort of admition by Bush to explosives being involved in 9/11 is utter crap and an embarresment to anyone that chooses to exercise judgement and values the appearance of sanity. Wild allegations scare off potential convertees to your movement. Choose your words wisely.
I encourage everyone to question the truth movement just as they would our government.
I agree that we should
I agree that we should question the truth movement as much as we do our government. How refreshing to hear this...some of these guys are spending BIG BUCKS and getting a lot of "inside" information....makes me wonder who is funding THEM? Or, are THEY being fed disinformation? It never ends.....down the rabbit hole we go....
Yeah
We need to be careful here, the Neo-cons are like the bird-cage liner for the globalists, they do all the dirty and if we allow it to happen the 9/11 backlash will be yet another "reaction" to which they can offer their "solution". We have already seen Kissinger begin this positioning in recent statements.
i think what he means
at least one way to interpret this is that let's say a terrorist is attacking a 20 story building; well if they bomb it on the 1st or 2nd floor, people might still be able to jump to safety, but if they bomb the stairwells on the 5th floor or higher, people won't have any escape route.
I'm not sure how this necessarily ties into the WTC attacks and I doubt they'll ever reverse and say they believe bombs were planted in the towers. That would really be some shit.
On the other hand, if they do reverse, NIST can always claim they're earlier analyses were flawed since they previously operated under the assumption there were not bombs in the building (since, they (wrongly) claim, there was no evidence of bombs). NIST is only speculating and I'm sure they're more than willing to admit it; so they're not really lying, just producing a scientifically reasonable explanation (kind of like "my dog ate my homework" is a scientifically reasonable explanation - doesn't mean it really happened, but no one can "prove" them wrong since the evidence is gone (burp, woof)). It's the people relying on NIST's conclusions who take them for absolute fact.
Regardless, NIST doesn't even attempt to explain the progressive collapse mechanics (they just say there was more than enough kinetic energy) nor do they begin to explain the explosive lateral accelerations of the so-called "collapses"
WHO Planted the Explosives?
Obviously NO ONE is going to stop at Bush! Who in their right mind would believe HE planted the explosives - the thermate cutter charges and the two mini-nukes?
The question of the moment is: was this a freudian slip, or was he talking out of school intentionally?
Whoa there
You state three times, including once in the title, that Bush just confessed to controlled demolition of the WTC but there was no such specificity in his statement.
Why the hyperbole?
P.S. Please close the bold tags in your post.
Like i predicted and warned
Like i predicted and warned about many months ago:
U.S. Gov will link Controlled Demolition/Thermite to Al-Quaeda.
That's also why they officially moved "KSM" to Gitmo.
To 'kill' him and the final spin.
This is where the orwellian movement is setting up itself.
Don't believe the hype :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfDg2rX9JgE
Wow, Nico, that is the
Wow, Nico, that is the shortest, most coherent post from you I have seen. I actually read the whole thing.
You may be right; I can't prove otherwise. I was on the west coast at the time and I didn't see anything live on TV until after the south tower had already collapsed. All I saw was replays, over and over again. So I can't rule out no planes, although I have an awfully hard time believing that all the eyewitnesses are wrong and the amateur videos were doctored. But, like I said, I don't know. You're not presenting a very convincing case, though.
Anyway, this video you linked to says the two video clips overlayed are showing the towers from the exact same position, which is clearly not the case. In the first one the north tower occludes roughly 1/3 of the south tower, whereas in the second video the full width of the south tower appears to be visible. One would expect the outline of the plane and the apparent trajectory to differ between the two video clips. When the two videos are overlayed, no attempt is even made to rotate and shift one of them so that the towers line up in both. It's laughable.
Like I said, I can't rule out no-planes. I can't rule out a missile at the Pentagon either. But I am convinced of neither of them. If you really want to get people to "wake up" as you put it then you need to do a much better job of presenting your case. I will listen if you present your case calmly and clearly, like I did with shep a few weeks ago.
By the way, comments like "Like i predicted and warned about many months ago" don't help. They are arrogant and condescending and make you sound angry and bitter like Mike Ruppert. Just a little tip.
People have been speculating this for years
that when it got too hot to handle, they would switch to al-Qaeda bombed the buildings. I was just wondering yesterday when they would start with that.
there is no way they can
there is no way they can spin 180 and not point directly at themselves.
"Yeah, see AlQueda put bombs in the buildings, and see well the 9/11 Commision, NIST and FEMA have been playing along in our plan to expose them for this horrible act!"
Ahhh, makes no sense to reverse explosives in the buildings with terrorists, maybe a week or so after 9/11 but not 5 years later.
Check out the balls on this guy!!!
I agree, there is no way to spin this around to say, "yeah, we knew all along that there were explosives in those buildings." But I'd sure like to see him try it!
Imagine all the left gatekeepers who have openly scoffed at the "bombs brought down the towers" theory, suddenly trying to come back around to support the new government spin!
It certainly looks like he's trying to set the stage for "explosives brought down the towers". Which tells me they know the sh** is about to hit the fan!!!
Too little, too late.
explosives
I'm surprised after this amount of time since Bush made that announcement there hasn't been that much of stir. I find that statement totally out of the normal rules for government lies. The Washington I know, stays the course, never waiver, stick to the lie. indeed I do believe they're setting the stage to blame the ragheads. It really doesn't matter what the lie is or how ridiculous it sounds comming from Washington, Who is going to do anything about it anyway? Washington has always been a lousy liar, never could tell a decent lie. Governments that investigate theirselves get that way. Like Oswald and Oswald alone killed the President. The only way you tell a lie in Washington is if THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT approves it.
Disagree
I disagree. They will have no choice when it becomes more apparent that explosives were used. But they can always say "gee, isn't that interesting. I guess they were alot smarter then we thought. Well have to look into this and get back to you - say never"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U4AlmPyQ4IU (updated)
Still laughable, Nico.
I appreciate your effort and the fact that you're listening to feedback. So now you've tried to line up the towers in the overlay but the problem remains: the camera positions are different. You can't line them exactly, as you claim. Nice try, though.
BCS, a single plane can only
BCS, a single plane can only travel in one direction at a time, and if a camera captures the same two objects in the same position, it's a lock. (trying to explaine this without using one's hands is difficult) Personally, I find it easier to explain flooking down rom a bird's eye view. Let's try it.
Looking down, the center of the clock holding the hands is the the antenna on WTC1. One one approach , one hand is at the 12:30pm postion, and in another photo at 2:00pm. In other words, the faked plane is flying over Burger King, and in another, the 'fake' plane is flying over the Woolsworth bldg.. an impossibility, (I don't have my NYC map handy, but you get my point.)
This is merely just one of many proofs that these images of planes hitting the towers are not real, and instead the product of a computer. And it is drinving the USG nuts, and they drag out endless actors, and endless fake photos, but never real evidence that could be presented in a court of law. That is not to say spin has not swayed some juries, but what's wrong with the USG producing some real evidence, i.e., matching serial numbered steel parts, credit cards reciepts, real security camera shots of the 19 highjackers boarding? 8 huge steel engines......it would be so easy. Believe me, the USG and CNN, and ABC are in a complete state of panic over this discovery...
malaprop aka izzy
No Planers Go Away
Hey malaprop, the link below shows 44 different clips of the planes you claim do not exist. In your lame post, you paint a mental picture of what you say occurred but provide no visual proof whatsoever. NONE!
Be gone! You have no power here!! You and Nico have been exposed as frauds. Now you're just embarassing yourselves. Have some dignity man!
You're pretty stupid dude.
You're pretty stupid dude.
What?!
I have now opened my ears to these conspiracy theories, but now are you guys telling me that I did not see the planes I saw on T.V. actually hit these 2 buildings?! Too many witnesses, etc. saw this with their own eyes. How then do you account for the lost lives on these airplanes? I Do think airplanes hit the towers and I DO think it's very {possible} explosives were planted. You guys should go to myspace and take a look at the "Tom wants you to know the truth" site. I watched all the clips and read all the info. It's very interesting stuff. Check out this site: http://www.myspace.com/tmeyer4414
For all the "no planers".
Take a look at this.
Thankyou Chris Rose
Thankyou for showing those clips of the towers being hit by planes. It seems we have to show these conspirists every little piece of evidence we can find that it is not a conspiracy. It seems these people did not watch tv on September 11 or in the days after with constant coverage of the events. These conspirists are obviously anti-bush, anti-war, peace activists, war deserters or such. It is annoying that they even consider having this site up. I only joined to post truth and not theories, and after having a look at the first blogs a few weeks ago when I joined i was appalled at the ideas these people come up with. Just thought I would show you some support.
Hold on there Phil
I just posted that for our old friend Nico. He's one of the disinfo trolls who likes to confuse the issues from time to time. It's how he gets his cheap thrills.
Don't get it twisted. I'm a die-hard Truther!!!
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
Thank you for your
Thank you for your enquiry.
Specific enquiries about Sept 11 can no longer be answered from this user, but if you send your enquiry to the world’s foremost Sept 11 researcher, Professor David Ray Griffin at davraygrif@cox.net he will be pleased to answer your questions.
You're a retard. Nothing
You're a retard. Nothing more. Nothing less.
You are confusing "view
You are confusing "view point" with camera zoom/position.
Thank you for your enquiry.
Specific enquiries about Sept 11 can no longer be answered from this user, but if you send your enquiry to the world’s foremost Sept 11 researcher, Professor David Ray Griffin at davraygrif@cox.net he will be pleased to answer your questions.
Bull crap
This shows how the conspirists get their information. It is complete bull crap proof and has no evidence. They are creating a mountain over a hill. They take truthful talks and exagerrate about what this meant and how this could tell that the CIA could have plotted these attacks. There is no way you are right or even close to being right. reverse psychology.. ;(
Phil, too my knowledge...
this is the first mention of Al Quaeda planting bombs high up in U.S. buildings. Kind of a major piece of information for Bush to drop so casually. Don't blame the Truth Movement for seizing on it. This is the so-called "leader" of the free world! Why the hell else would he be bringing this up?
Don't be so quick to dump on the truth seekers unless you have some other plausible explanation for this sudden piece of MAJOR news about the so-called "terrist".
The terrorists had to fly
The terrorists had to fly there planes to the base of the building they could not fly to the base it would be too steep of a drop for them to make a direct hit. There were no bombs planted in the buildings. Stop making accusations when there are none, what you saw on tv was the real thing. Stop looking for things that don't make sense you democrat.
Phil... I don't understand what the hell you're talking about?
I thought they spoke english in Canada?
Go have another Xanax and a shot or two of vodka.
French-Canadian dude.
French-Canadian dude.
Listen to the man!
Years of watching TV have made Phil from Canada the definitive expert on 9/11. Stop the presses!
Watch this then..
Check out this video and fastforward to the 38th minute, and watch from there..
"conspirist"
There is no such word as "conspirist", and if there were, it would mean the same as "conspirator", i.e., one who conspires. Your attempt to link all who find the official story ludicrous won't wash here. Probably not even in Canada.
The official story - that 19 middle eastern men, under the control of a very ill man on a kidney dialysis machine in a cave in Afghanistan, who lived with FBI agents, attended flight schools at Pensacola Naval Air Station and the Defense Language School in Monterrey, California - is the most enormous conspiracy theory of them all. Guess that make YOU a "conspirist", whatever that is. You are ignorant of the most basic facts of the case. You are WAY out of your element here, Hoser.
What you focus on is what you know
Cynics to 9-11 Truth have a lot of learning to do, and it's WAY beyond this latest revelation by Bush (whatever it ultimately means, which regardless of what you know or don't know, is up to interpretation). If believers of the official impossible lie (including that Osama and his clan of still alive hijackers caused a complete stand down of standard operation procedure on 9-11) want to attack those who are very intrested in this Bush quote as nutters than lets step back, learn and realize that there are Facts and there are Theories. It's ok to theorize but the reality of the gov't 9-11 Scam is backed full of so many facts that to mock the 9-11 Truth movement, including even it's fringe theorists which do more damage to the cause than good, is truly an act of ignorance of towering proportions.
Many still need to come to terms with many aspects of 9-11 conspiracy (proof of preplanted explosives is a subject worthy of a book in and of itself: start with "Painful Questions" by Eric Hufschmid) before they just use what they see as rediculous to cause their typical arm-chair response of dismissal.
George Bush is definitely the dumbest Presidents ever, and maybe one of the dumbest persons in general. He has said more dumb and wrong things then all other presidents in history put together. My personal opinion is that the Bldg 7 matter (which is clearly controlled demolition, even admitted by WTC owner Larry Silverstein and the WTC matters brought up by Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen and other notables on T.V. has caused alot of wind to come their way and it seems Bush and whoever is coaching him along are trying to come up with explanations which still make no sense. And since Bush is dumb he is a terrible liar if left on his own, and sometimes he fucks up and says the wrong thing or more than he should. To be a good liar you have to be smart (and simutaneously unwise if it's a habit) and cover all your lies with viable sounding excuses.
Sadly, I predict (and I hope I'm wrong) that our ultra-near sighted mogul controlled media will not even make anything of this. Moguls are conservative with their wealth. Anarchy would fuck up their stake in things. And it's not just that the corporate media is aligned with the status quo, it IS the status quo.
Corporate Media is the Whore of Corporate Government!
"Terrorist demolition" was floated as idea ON THE DAY
Here is a video from USA Today offices outside DC (a view of the Pentagon burning in the background) in which reporter says he's just come from the FBI and their working theory on the Towers is that they were brought down by truck bombs parked in the basement. NO KIDDING:
http://terrorize.dk truck bombs.fbi.jack.kelley.rm
It's also what Van Romero initially figured, before he "changed his mind."
Then we also have Willie Rodriguez saying he saw one of the hijckers hanging around the WTC.
The "terrorists blew up the Towers" idea has been around for years.
Bombs in non-WTC buildings
It seems to me that Bush is trying to suggest that al-CIAda was planning other attacks in the US in which bombs would be planted in such a way as to prevent people from escaping and thereby cause more casualties. His speech is so garbled as to be incomprehensible. Nothing this guy says makes sense anymore - I don't think we can get anything worthwhile from this garbage.
Huh?
Obviously YOU got something from it: that Bush said there were explosives in the buildings. Same thing I got. It's not gonna be an easy retraction. And any retraction will focus more attention on his statement.
What are they going to do, put him "under a doctor's treatment" and claim he had a nervous breakdown just before he made the statement? And what about the sheeple who hang onto his every word as gospel? How many of them will be able to swallow the notion that Mohammed Atta sneaked into WTC 1, 2 and 7 and planted explosives? I mean, the security was being handled by MARVIN BUSH'S company!
Idiocy
How can you jump to this conclusion from what the presidnet said? You're retarded.
I think it is very IMPORTANT
I think it is very IMPORTANT to tell us what EXPLOSIVES! I know of no other building that would fit this statement. The PRESS has to "press" for ANSWERS!
aircraft
I have tried and tried and tried to get someone to listen to me that I was a mile and a half from the Pentagon that morning, and I SAW the freakin' missile pass overhead. I heard not one, but three concussions. I'm a carpenter, and I was working outdoors on a garage BELONGING TO A RETIRED AIR FORCE PILOT, so my testimony is quite verifyable.
As I was setting up my tools for the day's work, I caught the first report of a plane hitting the WTC, and I was concerned for a friend who flies frequently, so I went in where, in the morning, the t.v. was always on. It wasn't, that morning, but it was after I gave my report. So I was pretty much on top of all of it. Not only that, but one of my brothers was an archetect and worked on high-rise buildings, so I have some knowledge of structure, and also demolition. I knew immediately something was not right about this incident, and have been a truther ever since.
It has taken five years for all the little details to trickle out for those of us who have relentlessly researched this since 9/11/01. Indeed, we all saw the onslaught of spin start when Press For Truth came out, and it's been heating up ever since. Incidently, I sponcered a viewing, and I'm still at my Brave New Theaters web site. Roy Stokes.
If it's trace-able, in my early days on the few web sites available, I signed on as "tmswyr".
Thanks for the article. More facts...and spin...are about to unfold; get those trays in the up-right, locked possition.
Royster: Please...
...create your own blog and tell your story there. More people need to see it. Question: was there anyone else around when you saw the missle go over head, and could they verify your claim?
Creating a BLOG
I actually don't know how to create a blog...I'm not sure what a "BLOG" stands for since I am fairly new to seriously interacting with computers computers. (My research was done on my "wife"s computer for four years. It was sort of like driving an automatic transmission. Now I'm having to learn how to clutch, shift gears, etc.)I've only been on-line here at my own home for a few months. This is why I have been going to this site and trying to tell my story.
To answer your question; I arrived at the job site that morning at 8:00. I'm self employed, so no one was with me. I can give exact coordinates to where I was and see if this validates my claim. (Specificly, Lloyds Lane and Between Braddock Road and Russell Road, Alexandria.) I've never looked. I can also validate an F-16 flying overhead well over an hour past the incident (my client would obviously know what an F-16 is, but I couldn't have told you.)
In fact, I had no idea what I saw was a missle; I only knew it sounded funny, and looked obviously military. It was well over two weeks when I saw just such a missle, with the same sound, on t.v.. I have been trying to schedule hypnotic regression locally, and will make the results public when it happens.
Surely my client, an Air Force Col., would have heard the engine. My relation with him turned very sour two days later when I told him I was certain that this was done by American and British interests, but I've since learned the power of supena (sp?).
royster
media articles I saved since 9/11
I also saved many media articles from that day and two years beyond. In fact, I sent a copy of my local newspaper's own copy which shows the "plane" about to hit the 2nd tower, fully showing the bulge, along with that month's letter to the editor THREE YEARS LATER (because I had saved it)(I get to publish one per month)and that newspaper is The Northern Virginia Daily.
I have an incriminating copy of Newsweeks' "special report", which is dated September 14, 2001, yet it was much too complete (for the time) to be on the newstand I bought it from on September 13. If the FBI raids my house and takes all of this evidence, it isstill available to the public.
Last, but not least, I kept newspaper clippings of a suspicious group of men who one day were jublilant Iraqis at the pulling down of the statue (Saddam) and a day or so later...lo n' behold!...they're in Iraqi military uniforms. I suspect they were Chalibi's minions.
The Northern Virginia Daily has never ONCE not printed my letters, and I conveyed to this community 9/11 facts a couple of years back when it was quite a risk to do so.
Thanks, royster, for your reply...
....Unfortunately if you have no one to corroborate what you saw, it is only an interesting story (no offense.... I'm not saying you didn't see it).
You can blog by signing in, and then click the "blog entry" link in the upper left corner of the site.
You can't research as a
You can't research as a carpenter and with a computer and monitor. You a liar and a simpleton. Why are you so dumb? Why are you a liar?
So will the people who have
So will the people who have been claiming after all this time that explosives could not have been planted beforehand suddenly believe that explosives were in fact planted beforehand?
Surely Al Qaeda could have successfully planted the explosives, but not the bumbling fools of the shadow government!! All the scumbags that have fought us all these years will have to eat their words, and nobody will believe this latest spin.
Means, Motive, Opportunity. Only one group of people possess all three of these.
WTC power-downs
Any seasoned 9/11 researcher knew two years ago about the documentd fact that the towers were "powered down" shortly before 9/11, alledgedly for "upgrading cable" for computers. This occurred from the 50th floor on up. That means there were NO SURVEILANCE CAMERAS operating, minimal security, which...oh-muh-GAWD!...Marvin Bush not only knew about it, he authorised it.
In one of my more creative moments, I wondered; how many survivors noticed soda machines suddenly appearing in unusual places? Just a thought.
As for the obvious full-floor flash of fire 1/3 of the way down, you cannot convince me a commercial aircrafte is going to hit a building at circa 300 mph, spew most of the fuel...probably also traveling at the same speed, one could only suppose...and enough of it is going to a) remain in the structure long enough to "bend steel" (I heat with kerosine in the winter, people, and why doesn't it "bend" jet engines?) b.)"trickle down the stairwells", yet not ignite from the original fire? (I live in the country; I do controlled burns all the time.) and c.) blow steel girders upward and outward 100 feet? Kerosine is not that explosive, and commercial aircraft jet fuel is a high grade of kerosine; a non-stoiciometrical hydrocarbon?
And who DID shoot J.R.?
One more note; my commute to work in Alexandria id 90 miles, just in case you want to split hairs on the details. And the Col. I speak of most assuridy is in the phone book.
Kerosene/J8
Hey Royster, how many of your kerosene heaters have melted and collapsed to the floor?
I guess NIST and the 9/11
I guess NIST and the 9/11 Commission which found no evidence of explosives whatsoever are wrong and should be fired. And Kevin Ryan should be re-hired and given a big raise.
Here's my take on it
Here's my take on it, from 9-11 End Game
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/11/9-11-end-game_14.html
"I believe that the time is now right to force the issue, and that the harm from discussing the end game is far outweighed by the need to come up with a strong counterargument to the "Osama did it" story. So here are my thoughts:
(1) The story that Al-Qaeda planted bombs logically fails. First of all, a couple of truck bombs wouldn't have done it. It took a coordinated and controlled demolition, involving bombs in the basements and throughout the buildings. Controlled demolitions of large buildings take many months of planning, expert timing, and complete control and coordination.
(2) The Twin Towers were some of the world's largest buildings, and they were demolished with near perfection, causing very little damage to surrounding buildings. This is not something that a bunch of rag-tag terrorists could have done on their own.
(3) Additionally, the sudden "straightening out" of the upper 34 floors of the South Tower after they had precipitously leaned over and started toppling like a tree could ONLY have been accomplished through very sophisticated demolition techniques. There are only a handful of demolition experts in the world who could have changed the direction of a toppling building in mid-air through destruction of the support structures underneath the falling building, so that the building would not topple sideways and destroy surrounding buildings. Osama and the boys? Impossible.
(4) Security for the trade centers was provided by a Bush-linked company. How did a couple of sent-from-the-cave terrorists, unconnected with the military or intelligence resources of the United States (with help from Israel?), have gained the access necessary to have installed the elaborate network of explosives and triggers required to implement these controlled demolitions?
(5) Even if the first tower had been brought down by Al-Qaeda, why didn't the government jam the radio frequencies or cell phones which would have been needed to orchestrate the controlled demolition of the second tower and of building 7? Why didn't the military send in an AWACS plane and jam all communications signals in the entire area (its easy to do)?
(6) Why did the 9-11 Commission and NIST lie and say fires brought down the buildings? This is evidence of guilt, and a cover-up. "We didn't want to scare the people" does not cut it. Covering up with a lie is evidence of guilt.
9/11 researchers and writers who are better informed than me will be able to add points I missed, and to take points off the list which are weak or unimportant. I'm providing a rough first draft, not a finished product.
If we can refute the coming limited hang out story that Al-Qaeda done it, we can win the 9-11 end game -- getting the full truth out there and imprisoning all of those responsible."
you forgot TV fakery
This better-informed 9/11 researcher would like to add that Al-Qaeda could NOT have arranged for the "live" WESCAM cartoon, nor could have AL-Qaeda animated the cgi planes that kept popping up on CNN (Army psyops) that day.
Good list otherwise.
Hope this helps.
it is interesting that he
it is interesting that he describes an unusual plot - but to say he's talking about WTC is far fetched... STAY GROUNDED...
downloadable video?
I tried using the Nettransport link, but it doesn't work for me. Does anyone have the video of this downloaded? If so, could you upload it and post a link here? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Video
I think you can find it on YouTube, my friend.
FAX THE WHITEHOUSE
HERE are more comments ... some of them are thoughful!!
http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/09/secret-agent-man.html#comments
It took a while, but 911blogger added this story to the front page...
http://www.911blogger.com/node/2950
But they HAD TO make a new story... my headline was probably too strong.
Right, We have to stay fair and balanced on 911blogger.com .. we must not allow the great unwashed to think that Bush DID plant explosives... (overlooking the colon)
2 more things:
nobody has said anything to the CODED WARNING idea...
and
Will we let this story die a quiet death?
Can someone please FAX a few questions to the White House and get them to ADDRESS THE ISSUE?
Hellooooo dumbasses. This is
Hellooooo dumbasses.
This is 2006, 9-11 was five years ago, remember?
He is referring to PLANNED attacks, not ones that
have already been carried out.
Idiots.
i dont think
i dont think that bush meant explosives in that sense, i think he is referring to the planes being explosives...hitting at high levels of the towers so people above couldnt escape, i dont think he necessarily meant actual explosives. it would make no sense for him to now try and support an explosives theory. i think we are taking his words way out of context
"Explosives"
That's what you think, eh? Or is it what you HOPE he meant? "Explosives". Not a word about plane impacts, just "explosives" going off in buildings.
Phil the Canadian
Phil the Canadian is one of the few dumb Canadians who still believe the (republican) party line regarding the controlled demolition of the WTC. The rest of us Canadians are aware of the truth regarding 911, that being that the Amerikkkan government was behind the entire affair, and orchastrated the "attacks".
Impeach them if you wish, or just hang them all for treason.
You're pretty stupid.
You're pretty stupid.
Humpus
Whoever wrote this tripe is pretty stupid.
Isn't it NEAT how MANY
Isn't it NEAT how MANY Deniers use ALL CAPS to PROVE their POINTS?
U2, I realize you're but a
U2, I realize you're but a mere anonymous hack behind a monitor. But since your evidence is so overwhelming, it's time to take ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
GET OUT OF YOUR DESKCHAIR AND SHOW THIS DAMNING EVIDENCE TO ANY AND ALL JUDICIAL BODIES AND DEMAND ACTION. GO AHEAD. DO IT NOW. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?
Why are people stupid? This is why I mostly avoid blogs. Any idiot with a keyboard and opinion is suddenly Samuel Clemens.
First, we know for a fact
First, we know for a fact that these buildings that collapsed were due to controlled demotions.
Secondly, we know that the evidence of this is spreading across the globe quickly to thousands and thousands of new minds daily.
What do these two facts mean? That the administration and those behind 9/11 will have to do one of two things very soon from THEIR point of view. Their first option is to carry out another false flag attack and then declare martial law. It won't matter if everyone knew the truth because we would be under a *total* dictatorship without even a remnant of a democracy. Their second option would be to admit that the buildings were demolished with pre-planted explosives but pass the blame to terrorists and perhaps even give credit to the 911 Truth community.
The problem is that I'm pretty sure if the truth comes out the buildings were demolished that no one is going to believe it was done by horrible Islamic terrorists that "hate our freedoms" so to speak. Everyone is going to look strait at George Bush and he knows it. But of course he is now famous for believing people will believe unfathomable explanations for events. So he will probably try to pass the buck once again.
Don't buy into it.
You're stupid.
You're stupid.
WOW!!
Good gravy people! Dont y'all know the difference between THEIR, THERE, and THEY'RE!!
Even us folks down he'ah in Texas.... uh, Mexico! Yeah! Thats it, MEXICO!! (Guess I'll have to start learning to speak and write Spanish.*sigh*) know the difference between their usage.
Come on now get it together, and quit confusing U.S. simple suh'thun folks down he'ah! Y'all lighten up a little! LOL!!
u2r2h is really stupid. I
u2r2h is really stupid. I wonder if he is being purposefully so.
I wonder if HE is being purposefully so.
Stupid assumption, stupid.
Shhhh. Bimbo.
Shhhh. Bimbo.
Maybe interesting for you
Maybe interesting for you guys:
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=1235
September 21, 2006
Book claims Helicopters had prior knowledge of CD
By ewing2001
picked up at
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=10931
by Alexander Cockburn
September 10, 2006
CounterPunch (*thx for heads up to Angie d'Urso, 911nycmeetup@yahoogroups.com,
http://www.Angieon911.com
Thu, 21 Sep 2006 )
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"...As discussed in Wayne Barrett and Dan Collin’s excellent book Grand Illusion, about Rudy Giuliani and 9/11, helicopter pilots radioed warnings nine minutes beforefinal collapse that the South Tower might well go down and, repeatedly, as much as 25 minutes before the North Tower’s fall..."
Alex Jones and Jeff Rense
Alex Jones and Jeff Rense are the biggest frauds of this century.
Bush's Speech
Spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin me right round baby, right round!
What a load of crap, pull your heads out of the proverbial asses theyre embedded in. Anyone who misconstrues what Bush just said as evedince that Bush knew explosives were planted in the WTC buildings is a tool being spun by people who want to sell you books and Diiiiiiiiiviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiids. Id be laughing but find it apalling people truly believe this.
Freaking parrots, get taught to say something and blurt it out over and over. Wow, wow, wow. I am in awe, talk about brainwashing, take a look in the mirror folks!
I just farted.
I just farted.
Truth & Petition
As the evidence of explosives becomes irrefutable and widely known, the perps have to acknowledge it. Clearly, the Truth is advancing.
Please sign and spread this petition in support of Dr. Jones. Thanks!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/525834923
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Not So!
Nowhere does W refer to the WTC. He talks about planned attacks (not those already done). The author here is stretching W's comment to try to prove his agenda. There is no admission here--listen to the audio. However, that said, I have no doubt that the WTC & Bld. 7 were brought down by explosives and the evidence covered up as quickly as possible without an adaquate independant inquiry. Perhaps Bush wasn't even involved (although his "reaction" to the news seems to suggest otherwise).
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